The Fire Catches On Water - reactions

I'm beginning to enjoy listening to these episodes because I have a poor memory of when I'm being recorded and I'm always interested in what our fearless leader puts into these things.

I think I sound so weird on skype recordings... different perhaps than on videos and other audio recordings... Maybe its just me.

Anyway, I'm often in and out of the call, so I get to hear what was being talked about behind my back. Funny stuff. I'm beginning to enjoy this whole thing, even though its mostly just mindless banter.

LOL, I especially got a kick out of how Niko made fun of the Obama Crimes allegations when I was gone for fear of sparking debate. Oh, people people people... snide remarks and clever comments are all fun and good but don't be a smartass about something unless you're willing to argue about it. Thats who I am, I argue about stuff.

Regardless of how much you like Barack Obama there is more than enough evidence to claim that Obama somewhere along the line was either not a natural citizen or forfeited his citizenship in Indonesia. The fact of the matter is Obama is probably not constitutionally qualified to be president and the Democratic National Convention absolutely FAILED to uphold the vetting process. But nobody cares so the Supreme Court will probably never hear Berg v. Obama anyway...

For those who don't know what that means there are legitimate claims that Barack Hussein Obama II was either born in Kenya or somewhere along the line lost citizenship.

Many people have stepped up to lesser courts and attempted to sue the DNC and the candidate and all motions for discovery have been stopped. Maybe all of Obama's paperwork does check out, who knows. But one thing is definite, while posting a certification of live birth and an illegitimate birth record on his website, he has been avoiding going into a court room and whipping out his true birth certificate like the PLAGUE.

Democrat Phillip J. Berg, plaintiff and founder of the Obama Crimes website has claimed three major pieces of evidence against Obama.

1. A supposed recording documenting his grandmother reminiscing about being there when he was born, in Mombasa, Kenya. It is very possible, his father was a Kenyan citizen with no U.S. citizenship and Obama has fought tooth and nail against resolving the claim. Also the system at that time probably could have allowed for him being registered in Hawaii up to a year after birth, it really isn't the big nutty theory people tell you it is. The supposed tape is a mystery to me though, I would think if it were there it would have been "leaked" somewhere by now, but then again most of the mainstream media doesn't seem to want to touch this trial with a 10 foot pole.

2. The birth certificate issue. A while after people started asking questions of McCain's citizenship and that was resolved the same questions were turned at Obama with no resolution. he posted a certification of live birth on his website and then somebody eventually bothered to point out that it isn't a birth certificate and doesn't really mean anything. He posted another such document that is vastly insufficient or fraudulent, but the mainstream media backed off the issue... Anybody can look at their own master birth certificate and know what it looks like versus the stuff posted on the Obama propaganda websites. I even have the advantage of a mother born in Hawaii only a bit older than Obama. Look at the documetns people, it really is a no brainer. Despite claims to the contrary he has never produced any documentation online or to the media that conclusively proves his citizenship. I think this is the biggest part of the case right here Obama has been completely unwilling to shut down the argument and prove himself to have been legitimately vetted, in fact when he went back to Hawaii to visit his grandmother and came home, the governor put a seal on all his records. Sometimes the simplest explanation is right, and often when somebody is hiding something there is something there worth hiding.

3. Citizenship. Obama got a stepfather, an Indonesian national who was also a non-citizen, and lived in Indonesia for a period of time where he was enrolled in school there under the name Barry Soetoro. Here is the thing though, back then you had to be an Indonesian citizen to be enrolled in the school system, and back then you couldn't have dual Indonesian/American citizenship. Oops. Now maybe its his Indonesian citizenship that is fraudulent, it is entirely possible. But many legal scholars would agree that he may have forfeited his U.S. citizenship in exchange for Indonesian citizenship, purposefully or not.

At any rate, Berg v. Obama was dismissed in the lower court by a Clinton appointed judge who claimed that the citizenry has no right to police the vetting process, so Obama has yet to explain anything. Berg v. Obama isn't dead though, it is headed to the supreme court. The paperwork was filed at the end of October, along with a request to suspend the election. Obviously the latter never happened, otherwise no amount of media bias would be able to surpress what was going on. Berg v. Obama still may happen though, Obama and the DNC have until the first of December to respond to the Writ of Certiorari in the case and explain themselves. I think that a "no comment" wouldn't suffice here in a just world, but the fact of the matter is the Supreme Court can pick and choose what cases it hears and this could easily disappear.

Another little bit, a lot of people think the birth certificate has the name Barry Soetoro instead of Barack Hussein Obama II on it, which would be proof it was issued after he was adopted by his step-father Lolo Soetoro, instead of when he was born. Just something to think about.

One could argue that it doesn't matter to them on a personal level, but it is pretty hard to argue that Obama was legitimately vetted and constitutionally qualified for the office he was elected to. Now of course I realize the political suicide that this case could mean for them, and I'm not unaware of the kind of anarchy that would insue if anybody actually prevented the Obama presidency from happening no matter how legitimate the claims. I honestly think it will disappear. Still to claim it never happened or didn't have any legitimacy... THAT is right up there with denying the moon landing.

:) I'm not mad at anybody, I rarely get mad over politics, I just wanted my thoughts to be represented.

I don't know when we will be recording again, the next episode though could possibly come from some old recorded material, something in the category of things that never should have been recorded out of fairness to everybody... we will see what becomes of that.